Dat Friso de stichter zoude geweest zijn kan ik niet aannemen. Dit behoort mijns inziens onder de fabelen en vertelsels der oudewijven, welke in zeker tijdstip de overhand op het gezond verstand hadden. Bij mij is het de taal van een volk en de liggin van het land, welke de naamsoorsprong kunnen aangeven. Dat nu het Oudfriesch, met het oud Saksisch zeer naauw verwant is, zal niemand betwisten, — vandaar dat ik stel, dat wij met die oude Saksen in vroegere tijden één volk hebben uitgemaakt. De Saksers zich vroeger meer landwaarts in bevindende en dus van de zee verwijderd, kenden dit land zeer waarschijnlijk niet, en niet voor dat een deel hunner zich hier nedergezet had, leerden zij dit kennen. (...) Deze streek nu noemden de oude Saksers het Frisse land en de bewoners Frissen, hetwelk de Latijnen in Frisia en Frisii hebben overgebragt. Friesland is dus niets anders dan het Frisse- of Nieuweland ter onderscheiding van het oude land. (...)
That Friso would have been the founder, I cannot accept. In my opinion this belongs to the fables and tales of old wives, which at a certain time prevailed over common sense. For me it is the language of a people and the location of the country, which can indicate the origin of the name. No one will dispute that Old Frisian is very closely related to Old Saxon — which is why I argue that we were one people with those old Saxons in earlier times. The Saxons, who used to be more inland and therefore away from the sea, were very probably not familiar with this country, and they did not get to know it until some of them had settled here. (...) The ancient Saxons called this region the Fresh land and its inhabitants the Fresh, which the Latins transferred to Frisia and Frisii. Friesland is therefore nothing other than the Fresh- or Newland as distinguished from the old land. (...)
North Frisian
Short study of fris / fresh
Fragments
[125/24] SIN FRISKA (→ FRESKA) HUD AND BLÁWA ÁGON MITH WIT HÉR
[his] fair skin, blue eyes, and white hair
[126/03] SÁ BJUSTRE FRES (→ FRESK) AS JEF HJA PÁS UT FRYASLAND WÉIKVMEN WÉRON
exceptionally fair, as if they had just come from Fryasland
Cognates
Dutch - fris, vers (old: ve(e)rs(ch), varsch, vrisch)
The Wijdenes find (2024) and its relevance for Oera Linda
Verdwenen Kastelen: het mysterie van Wijdenes (subtitled version may be available later)
The fundaments of (most likely) a 13th century Westfrisian castle were discovered underwater, near the village Wijdenes (where I was born and raised; older spellings vary, a.o. Wyns, below). It had been searched for centuries, speculations existed about several locations. The castle may have been built on an older foundation, as suggested by sources (see below).
Chronyk van Friesland (p.20), about early 4th century CE (dating questionable, but clearly before 13th century):
Deze tyd wierden de Landen op 't West en Zuidwest van Stavoren ook opgebouwd/ want ze tot deze tyd toe nog onbewoont hadden geweest/ het welk van vyf Edellieden/ ofte zodanige Mannen (die ook wat heerschappye en gebied boven andere wouden hebben) eerst ondernomen en begonnen is. De voornaamste van haar hiete Diederyk, welke omtrent twee Mylen van Stavoren in 't West op begon te bouwen/ kreeg daar na veel hulp en toeloop/ dat hy na zyn Afgodinne Medea, Medenblik noemde/ want zy schoon verguld was: Ende als 'er de Zonne op scheen/ zeide men/ Medea blinkt; en ter dier oorzake noemde men ze Medenblink, en namaals Medenblik.
De tweede van de voornoemde vyf/ boude daar nu Opdyk is/ de derde tot Wyns (...)
(Note the part about Medenblik having been named after Medea.)
Even if this was not the structure they were hoping to find, it shows that even today such discoveries can be made and likewise, older versions of (e.g.) Medemblik and Stavoren may have existed outside the dike (now water) and the names may have moved more landinwards. The argument that Oera Linda cannot be authentic, because at these locations no very old structures were ever found is thus weak.
About the argument that something should have been found by archaeology.
In the Westfrisian village where I was born and raised, Wijdenes, count Floris V of Holland had a castle built after he had finally conquered the Westfrisians in the late 13th century.
According to oral tradition, it would have been built on the remains of an earlier 'castle' from the Danish or viking founder of the village Roelof, Roeland or Rodulf (etc.).
The coat of arms of Wijdenes/ Wydenes/ Wyns/ Venes/ Wienesse/ Vornes (etc.) still has a (chess game style) tower as a reminder of this time.
There are theories that (part of) the village used to be located in what is now the Markermeer (earlier: Zuiderzee, resp. IJsselmeer).
There has been a lot of searching for remains or foundations of this 13th century castle (-700 BP), but nothing significant has been found yet. Still, there is no doubt that it once existed.
Therefore, I am not surprised that nothing has been found thus far, of the era -4200 till -2000 BP.
After the eventual [partial] annexation of West Friesland (in 1282), Floris V had five castles built. (...) There are strong indications that Floris V made the strategic locations depend on whether some form of defense structure was already present (...). For Wijdenes and Medemblik, these precursors were undoubtedly (involuntarily) left behind by the West Frisians.
and (untranslated):
Vanuit beide plaatsen, resp. in 1282 (Wijdenes) en 1283 (Medemblik)2, liet Floris V een oorkonde uitgaan. Het dus eveneens plausibel, dat de beide verdedigingswerken er al stonden, en zover van toepassing slechts een opknapbeurt nodig hadden. Dat er nog geen sprake was van stenen burchten valt af te leiden van het feit dat een omwalde burcht bij Wijdenes (Niwewic) wordt beschreven in de kroniek (ca. 1320) van de geestelijke Willem Procurator:
(Vertaling uit het Latijn). "In het jaar 1282 werd graaf Floris van Holland, hoewel de gekwetsheid over de ondergang van zijn manschappen bij de Friezen niet op zijn gelaat geschreven stond, door een zeer grote animositeit tegen dat volk bewogen. Dus nadat hij een hoeveelheid van zijn troepen zowel uit Holland als uit Zeeland bijeengebracht had, begaf hij zich per schip naar de plaats, Nuwewic* geheten, waar hij de boze Friezen, zoals zij tot dan toe gewoon waren geweest, tegenover zich aantrof. Zij hadden zich na het bouwen van een bolwerk op een wal, als waren zijn onoverwinnelijk, teruggetrokken, en stelden zich met een krachtige macht tegen het leger van de graaf teweer."
*Over de toponiem 'Nuwewic' is veel discussie geweest. (...) Dat 'Nuwewic' de naam was van een nieuwe locatie van Wijdenes, omdat de oude locatie door de zee werd verzwolgen is erg plausibel. (...) Het is niet uitgesloten dat het 'oude Wijdenes', inclusief de restanten van het huis van Wijdenes door de zee prijs werd gegeven. (...) De toponiem 'Nuwewic' betekent dan feitelijk 'nieuwe vlucht/wijkplaats'. (...)
In hetzelfde verband werd de toponiem verklaart door de 17de-eeuwse West-Friese historicus Claes Nanningsz (...) in een van zijn 'memoriën;' uit 1637:
Doen dit oude Wijnes nog in wesen was, als ten tijde van Graaf Floris de 5. dewelke West-Friesland beöorloogende met schepen aangekomen is ende sijn volk gelandet heeft omtrent daar het Casteel van Wijnes stond, welke Huijs of Burg hij ingenomen heeft (...).
Dese voorsz: plaats daar Graaf Floris sijn volk lande, word in ouder schrijvers genaamt de Niewer Wijke. Dit is omtrent de jaren 1285. 1286 en 1287. (...)
Waar uijt blijkt, dat dit jegenwoordig Wijnes (...); doen ter tijd, doen het oude Wijnes nog niet van de zee opgeslokt was, die Niewe Wike geheten heeft apparent omdat het volk van 't oude Wijnes, voor de zee heeft beginnen te wijken; en op dese plaatse haar neder geset, en soo wat in-geweken hebbende, het daarom de Niewer Wike hebben genaamt.
00:25 "He didn't give a convincing answer as to why [Oera Linda] isn't a hoax" — How would Kat have answered the question?
01:05 Position of the interviewer would have been staged so that only his left eye is seen, which would symbolize the 'sinister path'. Kat's noticing of symbolism is selective as she ignores the EU-logo (designed in 1955) at:
01:56 ... on Raubenheimer's book.
03:07 Raubenheimer mistook the year of Sandbach's transation (even in his 3rd edition): 1896 should have been 1876.
03:17 Kat 'proves' that Raubenheimer would not have approved of Ott's translation, first published in 2021. How is this possible when Raubenheimer died in 2014?
03:33 "Some editing was done..." — example (ch.13f): Sandbach's "imitating Finda's wicked people..." was changed into "disgracefully imitating the wicked Findas, and practicing occultism..." — Raubenheimer erroneously thought he could translate KÀLTA/kaltia ('to speak') with 'practicing occultism'.
03:57 'Magyarar' was an error by Raubenheimer. This word isn't used in the original MS, nor in any other translation. Varieties of this plural in MS: MÁGJAR, MÁGJARA, MAGJARA, MAGÍARA, MÁGJARUM.
04:00 'Magy/Magi' is not short for Mágjara, but singular and only used for the supreme MÁGÍ. Since in English 'magi' is plural of 'magus', I translated as 'magus'.
05:40 'To promise cows with golden horns' is an expression still existing in Dutch, meaning 'to propose good things that will never come true', like 'unending riches' or 'mountains of gold'. Metaphors (OL has more of them*) are not meant to be understood literally. The current version of the Ott translation maintains original metaphors, explained in footnotes when unclear. [*Example, ch. 9e: 'they could not grill their herring on our fire', i.e. 'were not welcome with us'.]
07:35 ANFANG and BIJIN are used together and both mean 'begin' (or something like it). Since 'bijin' most obviously is the origin of our 'begin', I chose a different word to interpret ANFANG, one that may fit better in its context. The Fryas 'Anfang' may not mean exactly the same as German/Dutch 'Anfang/aanvang'.
08:33 Subject 'she' as used for Earth is HJU, HJA is 'they', HJAM is 'them' , KÉMON is plural 'came', like German/Dutch 'kamen/kwamen'.
10:00 'Od' as used in our translation is explained in a footnote. The Old Greek word ὠδις (ódis) can mean birth. In Prose Edda and Heimskringla by Snorri Sturluson, Óðr is mentioned as Freyja’s husband and father of two daughters. Od/odd can also be related to Old English 'ord' and Old German 'ort': point of a weapon, spear, etc.; Odd numbers are even ones + 1. The shape of the number 1 (named 'odin/odyn' in Russian/Ukrainian) could easily relate to the old meaning of pointed object (or organ?).
10:33 Sandbach (1876) did not derive od from Latin odium. Ottema (1872) did before him, much to the dismay of the MS owner, Cornelis Over de Linden (1811-1874). See blog post Two worst mistakes in first OLB publication. Also note that in the manuscript there is no period between WR.ALDA.S and OD, but there is after DRÁMA, so it's 'Wralda's od ...' not '... visions of Wralda'. To interpret it as 'Wralda's hate' would not make sense, certainly not in context of the other texts. Wirth (German, 1933) translated OD as Od (Gottes Odem), i.e. Od (God's breath).
Original fragment in the manuscript, showing where the periods should be.
'Od' fragment in Wirth's (German 1933) version, compared to Sandbach.
11:51 See 08:33: HJA as subject is 'they'. A translation app for contemparary Frisian will not work well for Old Frisian or the Fryas language.
Hidde's and Liko's letters of instruction in Sandbach's version, showing that hja is (mostly) plural.
12:29 Wralda is not a man. Unlike in the Bible, OL does not suggest man looks like Wralda. So it is not implied that Wralda 'had sex' with the daughters of Earth. I only suggest that 'od' is related to fertility/procreation, which makes sense because after it entered/penetrated the primal mothers, they (all three) begot their sons and daughters. That Frya had not been with a man is thus no contradiction.
13:32 Correct fragment is WRALDAS OD TRÀD TO.RA BINNA (with 'TO').
[p. 15] Voor ongehuwde vrouwen is de algemeene naam maagd, die in alle Germaansche talen bekend is*, doch in hare afleiding geene belangrijke resultaten voor de kennis van het volkskarakter geeft. De stam waartoe dit woord moet gebracht worden, is mag, nog over in mogen, maag, maagschap, enz., en duidt dus enkel een verwantschapsbegrip aan.
* Goth. magaths, Ohd. magat, OS magath, AS mägdh. Ons meisjen is het verkleinwoord van maagd.
Mhd. meit ‘meisje, maagd’ als gewestelijke nevenvorm van maget (nhd. Maid ‘jonge vrouw’ alleen in dichterlijke taal). In het Fries is het woord overgeleverd in meid(zj)e ‘vrijen’ en meidslach ‘aanzoek bij een meisje’.
De vorm meid ‘meisje’ is vooral Noord-Nederlands en was aanvankelijk synoniem met maagd. In de loop van de tijd kreeg het vaak een negatieve bijklank, behalve als aanspreekvorm. (...)
maiden (n.) — Old English mægden, mæden (...) diminutive of mægð, mægeð (...) (source also of Old Saxon magath, Old Frisian maged, Old High German magad (...) German Magd (...) German Mädchen (...) from Mägdchen (...) (source also of Old English magu (...) Avestan magava- "unmarried," Old Irish maug "slave"). (...)
[002] The chieftains and their best sons laid down with promiscuous Finn girls (MAN'GÉRTUM). Their own daughters (TOGHATERA), led astray by this bad example, allowed themselves to bear children of the best looking Finn boys, in mockery of their foul parents.
[015] The Folksmother (MODER) at Texland may have twenty-one maidens (FÁMNA) and seven spindle girls (SPILLE MAN'GÉRTA), so that there might always be seven to attend the Lamp day and night.
[026] If anyone is so wicked as to steal from our neighboring peoples, commit murderous deeds, burn houses, defile girls (MAN.GÉRTHA → MAN'GÉRTA), or commit any other deed that is wicked, and our neighbors wish to have it avenged, then it is right to arrest the culprit and execute him in their presence, to prevent it from leading to a war in which the innocent would suffer for the guilty.
[061] In Britannia, there were plenty of men, but few women (WIVA). When the Gola realized this, they abducted girls (MAN'GHÉRTNE → MAN'GÉRTNE) from everywhere and gave them to the banished men for free. But all of these girls (MAN'GÉRTNE) became servants (THJANSTERUM) of the Gola and offered up the children of Wralda as sacrifice to their false gods.
[077] There was a rumor that he was favorable to us because he was bred of a Fryas girl (EN FRYASKE MAN'GÉRTE) and an Egyptian priest, as he had blue eyes and many of our girls (MAN'GÉRTA) had been kidnapped and sold in the Egyptian lands (...)
In the earliest years, the men (MANFOLK) living in Athenia took wives (WIVA) only of our own lineages. But as the young men (JONGKFOLK) grew up with the native girls (MAN'GÉRTA THÉR LÁNDSATON), they chose also [wives] therof.
[094] By Adela’s door, twelve lasses (MAN'GÉRTNE) with twelve lambs passed, and twelve lads (KNÁPA) with twelve calves. (...) the linen tunics of the girls (MÀN'GÉRTNE → MAN'GÉRTNE) were fringed with gold from the Rhine.
[109] But the girls (MÀN'GÉRTA → MAN'GÉRTA) wore no crowns made of that gold.
[111] As in Staveren, the girls (MÀN'GÉRTNE → MAN'GÉRTNE) were adorned with golden crowns upon their heads, with rings around their arms and ankles.
[112] When an eligible man (FRÉJAR) in the Saxonmarks comes to court a girl (MAN'GÉRTE), she asks [lit. the girls (MAN'GÉRTNE) ask] him: ‘Can you protect your house against the banished Twisklanders? Have you not killed one yet? How many aurochs have you caught and how many bear and wolf skins have you brought to the market?
[113] Make it custom for the girls (MAN'GÉRTNE) to ask their suitors (FRÉJAR), before they say ‘yes’: ‘What have you seen of the world? What can you tell your children about foreign lands and distant peoples?
[117] But the black folk (SWARTE FOLK) of Lydasburg and Alkmarum had done the same and, as they drifted southwards, they rescued many girls (MÀN'GÉRNE → MAN'GÉRTNE). And, since no one came for them later, they kept them as their wives (WIVA).
[151] All the riches they had with them were handed out strategically, to princes and princesses (FORSTA ÀND FORSTENE) and to favored young ladies (MAN'GÉRTNE). (...)
Both of Friso’s brothers-in-law (SVJARINGA) married daughters (TOGHATERUM) of the most renowned princes, and afterwards came troops of young Saxon men and girls (KNÁPA ÀND MAN'GÉRTNE) down to the Flee Lake.
[153] Moreover, the sea warriors brought various treasures with them that pleased the women (WIVA), the maidens (FÁMNA), and the girls (MAN'GÉRTNE) — which pleased all their relatives (MÉGUM), all their friends (FRJUNDUM), and allies (ÁTHUM).
[160] The lurid girls (LODDERIGA MAN'GÉRTNE) and unmanly boys (VNMÀNLIKA KNÁPA) who prostituted (HORADON) themselves to the vile priests and princes (PRESTERUM ÀND FORSTUM) enticed the new languages from their bed partners (BOLA).
[192] They also cause their daughters (TOGHATERA) to be called ‘faemna’ (maidens) (FÁMNA), despite knowing that no girl (MAN'GÉRT) can be called so unless she belongs to a burg.
The German Kurrentschrift (or: 'Laufschrift'!) and Sütterlin style have various letters that seem to be a clear descendants of FÀSTA's Runskrift (or: Runscript). In particular the F and the F can be convincingly related to each other, demonstrating that the Runskrift versions came first.
Much more can be said about this. This is a provisional exploration.
Recording of a chat about the Yule ('jol') and its celebration in Codex Oera Linda (and some related topics) by Bruce Stafford and Jan Ott, recorded Thursday December 21. With reading of various fragments in the Fryas language and their translations into English by Bruce and Jan.
00:00 Introduction 01:48 Reading Fryas fragments and translations 02:35 Yule & Christmas, letters 05:40 Different interpretations 07:10 Venerable Bede about 'Giuli' and 'mother's night' 08:55 Name 'Julius' possible origin 09:20 Description of Yule shape? 10:45 Missing illustration on page 72 11:48 What do we know about Yule celebration history? 13:50 Yule on Tolkien's Shire Calendar 14:54 What year is it after Atland's sinking? 17:47 References to time in OL 19:59 The point of celebration Yule 21:32 Fragment of ch. 13e "the circling of the Yule" 24:02 Verb, adjective and girl's name derived from 'Jol' 26:30 See video Saved from the Flood: Part 2d 26:57 Closing words