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| Circe turns Scylla into a monster (1695) by Eglon van der Neer (c.1635-1703), full cousin of my ancestor Jacobus van der Neer (1622-1700) |
Varieties in Oera Linda:
AN TJUSTER FROTA (noun: gnawing in the dark) - 1 (nr. of fragment below)
BI.NE THJUSTRE NACHT (adjective: on a dark night) - 9
IN THJÛSTERE WORDE (adjective: in obscure words)
THJUSTERNESSE (darkness) - 3
THJUSTERNISE - 4
THJUSTERNISSE - 5
THJUSTRENESSE - 6, 7
THJUSTRENESE - 8
Compound word of:
THJUSTER (3x) or THJUSTRE (2x)
and suffix NESSE (2x), NESE (1x), NISSE (1x) or NISE (1x)
Some cognates:
duister, duisternis (dark, darkness) - Dutch
Düster (grim, gloomy, dark) - German
tsjuster - Frisian
thester - English (obsolete)
ðēostre, ðīestre, ðȳstre - Old English
thiustri - Old Saxon
Possibly related to:
dusk (twilight) - English
tusk (darkness, gloom) - Russian
s-tuštiti se (become cloudy) - Servian
Fragments in Codex Oera Linda:
4f. Minerva
1. [035/05] THAT.ER EN SLACH FON MÀNNISKA OVIR JRTHA OMME.DWÁLTH. THÉR EVEN LIK HI IN KÀRKA ÀND HOLA HÉMA. THÉR AN TJUSTER FROTA. THACH NAVT AS HI. VMB.VS FON MÛSA ÀND ÔRA PLÀGA TO HELPANE. MEN RENKA TO [10] FORSINA. THA ÔRA MÀNNISKA HJARA WITSKIP TO RÁWÁNE TILTHJU HJA THAM TO BÉTRE MÜGE FÁTA VMBER SLÁVONA FON TO MÁKJANDE ÀND HJARA BLOD UT TO SÛGANE. ÉVEN AS VAMPÍRA DVA.
that a certain kind of people wander the earth, who, just as he, house themselves in temples and caves, gnawing in the dark. But not as he, to help rid us of mice and other plagues, but rather to invent deceptions, to rob other people of their knowledge so they can more easily seize and enslave them, and suck their blood like leeches.
2. [062/15] THJUS FÁM WAS FVL RENKA. SKÉN WAS R.ANHLITH ÀND KWIK WAS HJRA TVNGE MEN THI RÉD THÉR HJU JEF WAS IMMER IN THJÛSTERE WORDE.
This maid was a trickster. Comely was her face and quick was her tongue, but the advice she gave was always veiled in obscure words.
11b. Death of Frana
3. [084/01] JETA THÛSEND JÉR SKIL THJU SPÉKE THEN DEL NÍGA ÀND AL MARA SÍGA ANDA [5] THJUSTERNESSE ÀND IN BLOD. OVIR THI UTSTIRTH THRVCH THA LÁGA THÉR FORSTA ÀND PRESTERA.
Yet another thousand years the spoke shall descend, and sink ever deeper into darkness and blood — shed over you through the deceptions of princes and priests.
13c. Death of Adela
4. [093/25] TO MIDNE FONET FÉST.FÍRJA KÉM NÉVIL TO HULLANDE VSA WRDA IN THIKKE THJUSTERNISE.
In the midst of the festivities, a fog came and enveloped our lands in dense darkness.
5. [094/05] LIK ALLE ÀRGA WÉRON HJA HELPEN [10] THRVCH THJUSTERNISSE. ÀND HINNE GLUPATH THRVCH LINDA.WALD.IS PÁDA.
As with all evil, they were aided by the darkness and had sneaked through the paths of Lindenwood.
15e. Gosa’s Will
6. [142/10] THJUSTRENESSE SKIL HJU IN.OVERNE [15] GÁST THÉRA MÀNNISKA SPRÉDA LIK TONGAR.IS WOLKA OVIRET SVNNE LJUCHT.
It will spread darkness over the spirit of mankind, like thunderclouds over sunlight.
7. [142/25] THÀT FORMA SKILUN HJA GLORA. ÀFTERNÉI WITH THJUSTRENESSE KÀMPA ALONT ET HEL ÀND KLÀR IN JÁHWLIKES HIRT ÀND HOLLE WÀRTH.
At first they will glimmer, thereafter struggling with darkness until everyone’s hearts and minds become bright and clear.
16e. Gosa: Purity of Language
8. [159/25] ÉVEN BLÍD BRENGTH TÍD THA [30] SKADLIKA KRUDA AN.T LJUCHT THÉR SÉJED SEND THRVCH BOSA LJUDA. IN.T FORBORGNE AND BÍ THJUSTRENESE.
so time brings to light the harmful herbs that were sown by evil men in secret and in darkness.
19d. Askar Lost to Idolatry
On a dark night, I brought the maidens to the bastion, whereupon they went about dressed in white cloth, haunting the maze of paths so that no one afterwards dared go there.
https://svenska.se/saob/?id=D_2173-0355.85uy
ReplyDeleteSwedish Dunkel possible?
Not dark as in pitch black, but an uncertain cloudy/misty quality.
unclear, opaque, without luster, turbid.
Giving the darkness an veil of seeming confusion and obscurity, which would be the best setting for deception and mischief.
Writing this to highlight the idea, that darkness is not “negative” but the unclear quality is what gives the negative connotation.
To separate from the popular beliefs that light is good, dark is evil.
Suggesting then that THJUSTERNESSE given a turbid quality to darkness.
Yes, German also has 'dunkel' and Dutch 'donker', which seem less negative than the thjuster varieties.
DeleteAddendum.
ReplyDeleteAn polished obsidian mirror can be clear and dark. As a clear night sky. Which would give it an positive attitude? That which is is clear is good?
While an murky rough obsidian mirror, and an cloudy night. Is obscure, not transparent.
As transparency is clear and good. Anything that is not clear and transparent is bad. To simplify their(our) possible ideology.
So maybe “obscurity” is an accurate translation. As it highlights the lack of clarity and transparency, in both material and mental quality.
As in their lifestyle where darkness/night is full of possible dangers, adding obscurity to it.
One enters the weird realm of the supernatural. As mists and unclear things often acts as an link to the unknown/supernatural.
And only clarity can fight the obscure.
A few more things to add to the above statement. (If this is the place for such discussions?)
ReplyDeleteIt seems that clarity and transparency would be highly valued both as an cultural improvement. And against malicious subterfuge.
If one is open and honest about one’s intentions, trust can easily be formed with mutual aid following.
Anyone that would deviate from this, could be considered shady.
As in the works of Carlos Castaneda, with the core of his message being.
“The pursuit for freedom”
Also points out that in such endeavour, “one must clean the lens to the spirit”
Indicating to clean an reflective transparent surface membrane from unwanted debris.
Be it actual material debris and or unhealthy habits.
This could point out the correlation between transparency and freedom.
And there’s much sources indicating that freedom equals health, while transparency being an effective tool to hone one’s nous.
As the topic of transparency and freedom versus thjuster and wl, leaves much to ponder.
Yes for now this is a good place to discuss. A forum will be opened later this year or the next. Good points. For reason of providing more clarity, I intend to finally start a video log, to explain more of OL, my translation(s), the work of the foundation, etc.
DeleteI like the etymological analysis a lot! I for me ponder sometimes about names in history and the possible (on first sight far-fetched) links with OLB references. Fe: "Jon , Jön , Jhon en Jan is gelijk met gegeven ...".
ReplyDeleteNow this we see also likewise in today's explanation of the name Hanno: "A originally German word meaning "gift from God" ".
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hanno
While at the same time we find about the Family name "Hanno": German Dutch Flemish and northern French: from a pet form of the Latin personal name Johannes ‘John’ or of its vernacular forms such as French Jehan (see Jean ).
https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=hanno
So actually says: Hanno means little Jan="Janneke", the Jannekes are also known as the Yankees. When having all ears and eyes wide open, not difficult to draw the connection with Inka and the Inka's.
So had the Carthagians what we nowadays call "Germanic" roots? Burried in the fog of misinterpretations, various spellings, and disturbed/duplicated timelines? And could Hanno equal Inka?
And yes, we have some connection points:
Delete"The presence of the Carthaginians on the Iberian Peninsula is well documented, and it is commonly assumed they had commercial relations with the British Isles. But it is not generally believed they had a permanent physical presence in northern Europe.
By studying the origin of key Germanic words and other parts of Germanic languages, Theo Vennemann and I have found traces of such a physical presence, giving us a completely new understanding of the influence of this Semitic superpower in northern Europe."
https://theconversation.com/shillings-gods-and-runes-clues-in-language-suggest-a-semitic-superpower-in-ancient-northern-europe-139381
But as usual, close but no cigar: it is still thought the influence to be the otherway round: from south to north :-) Hopefully Theo Venneman and his comrades are still open for new insights, because it is a good track to start with it seems to me.