"The distinction between Antiquity, Late Antiquity and Early Middle Age is a cultural representation that has no basis in reality." (3rd article linked below)If we look at written sources, “we have [for the 1st-3rd century] a spotlight on Rome, but know little about the 1st-3rd century in Constantinople or Aachen. Then we have a spotlight on Ravenna and Constantinople, but know little about the 4th-7th century in Rome or Aachen. Finally, we have a spotlight on Aachen in the 8th-10th century, but hardly know any details from Rome or Constantinople. I turn on all the lights at the same time and, thus, can see connections that were previously considered dark or completely unrecognizable.” Gunnar Heinsohn as quoted in same article
History of the first millennium (CE/AD) is questionable.
It is a big and complex topic. Please ignore it for now if you do not feel ready for it.
I have no solid answers yet, but the questions and doubts raised make sense to me and could be relevant for us. Oera Linda may contain clues to possible answers, to an explaining theory, which I intend to discuss later.
For who is interested, here are links to four articles and a video on the topic.
How Fake Is Roman Antiquity?
How Fake Is Church History?
How Long Was the First Millennium?
Revision in Islamic Chronology and Geography
Some first notes:
- Is Adel, nicknamed Atharik (ch. 16d, [155/05]), related to Athanaric, "king of the Visigoths" (trad. dating reign 369-381)?
- Is Alrik (ch. 19f, [209/25]), related to Alaric I, "king of the Visigoths" (trad. dating reign 395-410)
- Was Liko's letter dated year 803 NÉI KERSTEN BIGRIP ('in Christian understanding') written 803 years after the birth of Buda/ Krisen/ Yes-us (1600 years after Aldland sank), and not 803 years after the Christ of Christianity?; Liko would then have written in ca. 2400 a.A.s.; Our current year would then be ca. 3620 after the sinking of Aldland. There would have been a cataclysm shortly before Friso's fleet arrived; this would have been ca. 1700 years ago instead of 2300 years. However, there may have been more instances of timelines being manipulated or confused.
- Main problem is Hidde's dating combining the two timelines [00a] in a way that 13th century AD would be ca. 19 centuries after Buda's birth.
- Rex (king) = RIK.HIS or RIK.S, meaning 'of the empire/ kingdom' ?
- Julian calendar: calendar based on the JOL/ Yule (wheel of time)? Was the Chi-Rho symbol (derived from) the JOL?
- Augustus = derived from HÁGEST; highest?
- 'Caesar' derived from KJASAR; he who chooses?
- The 'belly-pain' (ch. 19a How punishment came) could refer to the Justinianic plague (541–549 AD)?
- "The remains of metropolitan London from Bede's 7th and 8th centuries cannot be found because, in our textbook chronology, residential quarters in the city of Londinium, a perfect fit for Bede's description, are dated to the 1st-3rd century." ('London in the First Millennium AD: Finding Bede’s Missing Metropolis', Heinsohn 2018.) Bede's dating would still make sense if his system would refer to birth of Buda/Yesus. Christianity as we know it today may have been reformed after his age.
Interesting stuff Jan. The OLB warned us to not let our history fall in the hands of monks, now we are left with ruined and forged history coming from this period. I found a website that may peak your interest, the author claims to have made the discovery that "Roman roads" and other landmarks were actually pre-Roman. I'll link his site.
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Thank you for your comment and link. This reasoning based on road structures makes sense and is indeed relevant. If the events of OL happened some 1000 years later than our CE/AD timeline would suggest, all becomes more plausible. I am preparing an explaining theory, based on the Letters of Instruction (803 and 1256 'Kersten' reckoning/understanding) and the Buda/Jes-us narrative.
DeleteI will get into these links because I trust your research. I found out about this great deception years ago on Megaliths.org Sylvie Ivanovna showed European pottery using a dating system i489, for example, honoring Christ, using an 'i'. Yet archaeologists date these pieces as if i=1. Then last year I found Fomenko. Big shocker. Then someone told me to watch a YT video that showed mud flood evidence, abundant orphans (which I have wondered about) and of course the world fair buildings.
DeleteClearly something is wrong but I didn't trust some of the video creators logic.
Thank you Jan. You work so hard! I wish you and your family the best over Yule season.
I just dove into the first link. Woah what an eye opener! Tacitus may be a pseudonym?! I'm reading more. Very interesting.
ReplyDeleteGreat topic Jan! Really necessary to dive into it from all angles. Concerning some modern scholars and writers I very much appreciated the work of Monaldi & Sorti. Historical romans with lot of verifiable facts, rahter untouched by majority of historians. I had 6 years of Latin in highschool and though it really interested me, the main thought i carried from year 1 to 6 was the same: that language can not have been a genuine and ancient base-language of the people. Build up too artificially and used only in upper classes and authorities give it away: it was and is and esperanto like 'construct' and agreed communication tool by clerks and academics to hide for common people and be understood by fellow 'romans' over the world (of lettres). Distorted, duplicated and mythical historical mish mash on top.
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Hi Jan, same anonymous as above ;-) great job with all your studies/information sharing/interviews.
DeleteWas allready diving a bit further in the subject ...
What I was pondering on in relation with timings and shifts,
is the possible equation of Buda/Jessos/Krishna in OLB (1600th year after Atland submerged) with the later "Kersten recknong/begrip" of Liko and Hidde.
As an exercise of thought one could take Jessos and Kersten as the same and calculate from there.
Hidde wrote in the 3449th year after Atland submerged.
If Kersten was the Jessos/Buda/Krishene (assumption) born in the 1600th after Atland submerged, then Hidde wrote in the 1849th year after Jessos.
Or in correct wordings concerning the year zero: in the year 1848 nei Jessos recknong. Maybe of less importance for the bigger picture.
But Hidde explicitely said he wrote in the year 1256 nei Kersten recknong.
That makes a difference of 592 years (1848-1256). I think that this is allready pointed out by some earlier analists, maybe also by you.
As this timespan is quite the timespan what we nowadays count between Budha and Jesus.
But do you consider this maybe also as a possible 'timeshift' or phantom time, and we are actually dealing with the same Budha=Jesus?
I read that in the Himalayas there is actually a belief by some that Jesus was burried or passed away in India.
Maybe this is not fully the correct representation, but instead of ending his life there, he was born there and started his journey from there. By some described as Buda, by others later in his journey as Jesus.
Anyhow, what an interesting journey this is :-)
Actually, when scrutinizing my own assumptions, to be more correct:
Delete592 BC is many times stated as the year Budha got enlightened (and started to preach), not his birth.
His year of birth in the same period is frequently stated as approx 623 BC.
So Budha started his ministry at his 31.
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/666/
This could make the calculation -592 BC = 0 AD false, but with Kersten can be applied the same:
the countings of years could have started when Jesus started preaching, not his birth.
On wiki: "The Gospel of Luke (Luke 3:23) states that Jesus was "about 30 years of age" at the start of his ministry."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Jesus
Counting of years from start of ministry instead of birth, maybe a subject on its own when it comes to timelines.
Up to now, the earliest date for the invention of the phonetic alphabet that I've seen is Orly Goldwasser's archeological discovery of about 1900 BC in the turquoise mines is Serabit Egypt, by a Canaanite mining team. But although they do use a series of hieroglyphic symbols to represent sounds, such as the symbol for a snake to represent the letter "N" because the Canaanite word for snake was "nahash" these glyphs were preserved mainly because they were on stone. The actual invention could have been considerably earlier.
ReplyDeleteRobert K. Logan, a colleague of Marshall McLuhan, in his book *The Alphabet Effect*, also dates it to the discoveries at Serabit, and discusses how the shift to phonetics altered the mentality of humans during this period, eventually leading to the Bronze Age Collapse.
Douglas Vogt, an itinerant catastrophist, believes that the phonetic codes were discovered, rather than invented, by Joseph, and later transliterated by Moses who turned what was a computer code discovered in a cave into a narrative in a kind of "reverse Joycean" process. He related the Hebrew letters to projections of a waveform onto the surface of a torus, a theory that bears some similarity to the Fryan account of the Jol. He dates the catastrophe to about 12,000 years ago and suggests that the message hidden in the Torah involves a way to escape the coming recurrence of the catastrophe by leaving the stream of time, at least until it is over.
Again, according to Logan, the dissemination of the Greek alphabet proceeded from Ionia, which agrees with the Oera Linda accounts of the expeditions of Jon and Minerva. There is an academic disagreement over the precise dating of this event with the earliest dates being the 1300 BC date of Cadmus and the latest at around 700 BC. One of the things that has been difficult to explain is the reason for a delay of 700 years between the introduction of the alphabet and the Bronze Age Collapse around 1200 BC, and then another 700 years until the renaissance flowering of the Axial Age from India, to the Mediterranean. In addition, the same thing seems to happen in China, which *did not* have the phonetic alphabet.
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